The Nagars


I couldn’t wait to go and tell my “brother” about my dream and to see what he thought of it!

Was it true? Was there a soul connection? Or was it just my vivid imagination?

There was only oneway to find out so on Wednesday March 26, 2014 I drove over to his shop in Herne Bay to find out.

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I’ve known Sundip for 27 years since 1987 or at least since he opened his excellent shoe repair and key cutting shop in the Bay.


Right from the beginning I warmed to his keen intelligent personality and generous nature.

Over the years I always had my shoes repaired there and bought all my leather goods from him.

As an example of how past life memory influences contemporary decisions take my choice of shoes; for me it was Cheaney veldtschoen shoes. No others would do!

Cheaney have been making quality shoes in England since 1886.

Always quality, always expensive, a good solid everyday hard wearing shoe. Between 1978 to 2000 I bought a pair every year. I kept two pairs one for best and one for work. Each year the new became the old. Due to Sundip’s excellent maintenance I often had several pairs in use.

Why? It was the feel, the familiar feel as I wore them; The Dutch Zuid-Afrikaanse naam. The name gave the clue.

In 2002 whilst consciously remembering and researching my past life as William Baillie a Colonel of a Dutch Musketeer Regiment in 1630 and later Major General i/c of the Scottish Covenanter Infantry at Marston Moor July 2, 1644. I suddenly realised that my Veldtschonen were very similar in build to those I was wearing in the Schuttersmaaltijd painting bij Van der Helst!

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In those shoes I had marched all around Germany with my men.

In this life exactly synchronous with my 30th year I went to Gütersloh, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Bundesrepublik Deutschland for the Ministry of Defence for British Forces.

I wore my Veldtschonen “officers” shoes and received several comments on their quality from the other teachers and my fellow officers.

I served 3 years in Germany 1984 – 1987 exactly as I had done in 1630 – 1633 wearing similar shoes!

There was my answer.

And…..


I still have two pairs for visiting my Shooting club when attending the range. Exactly as I had used the pair in the painting for visiting the Sint Joris Doelen (St George’s Shooting Club) in Amsterdam in the 1630s.


DNA is the Key

From 1999 as I discovered evidence of my past lives I shared the information with Sundip and discussed his view of my findings which I valued highly.

DNA is the key to allowing ones spirit to inhabit a compatible body. Simply put we are our own ancestors.

What’s in a name

Sundip was born to the Nagar family. His Grand-father came from Porbandar, Gujarat, India.

So this was a good place to begin my research into how we are connected at the soul level.

I know from inherent knowledge that many Indian surnames often take their origin from the village or district that they originated from.

Meaning in Hindi

This was very straight forward and explained why lots of place names feature the name Nagar.


नगर

TOWN


नगर

CITY


नगर

PLACE


No wonder there are a lot of villages in India with Nagar in their name!!!


Meet the Nagars

Then I hit gold and had my answer!

Nagar Origin

Nagars are believed to be one of the oldest of the Brahmin groups. Historians claim the origin of Nagars to be purely Aryan, having come to India from Southern Europe and Central Asia. They migrated through the Hindu Kush to either Trivishtapa or Tibet; later through Kashmir and settled around Kurukshetra.It is also believed that before Nagars first came to Gujarat in 404 A.D., they lived in Sindh. According to Sir Herber Ridley, Nagars are a cross-breed of “Shaks” & “Dravids.” Dr. Bhandaarkar also considers that Nagars have origin outside our country. Nagars from across the borders came first to Kashmir and then they spread out in the states of Rajasthan, Punjab, Uttar Pradesh, Bengal, Malva, and Gujarat. After migrating from Kurukshetra they had first settled in Anandpur – Vadnagar of today.

Another view asserts Nagars to be of Greek origin. When Alexander invaded India, he had came with his army through Kashmir. While returning, many Greek soldiers settled in Kashmir. They came into close contact of Pundit community of Kashmir and the progeny that resulted was known as Nagars. Afterwards, Nagars migrated to other parts of the country. Nagars and Greeks are considered similar even today so far as their intelligence and physique are concerned.

A famous historian from Junagadh and a well known Nagar Shri Shambhuprasad Desai had mentioned in his book about the history of Nagars that Nagars first came from Greece, Macedonia, Syria or regions surrounding these places. There is a Nagar ground near Jordan and Israel. Besides, there is a place called Nagar. Also there is also a Nagar community in Iran, who are intelligent and famous and well known as good and efficient administrators. They might have come from there first toKangda (old NAGARKOT) of Himalayas. “NAG” means a mountain and “NAAG” means persons living in mountain region. “R” is a word of sixth tense. All these three put together becomes ” NAAGARA ” This leads us to to believe that Nagars must be living in the beginning in the regions surrounded by mountains. (Nagar – a man protected by NAG-a mountain)

Current research speculates the Aryan origin to be Hatak or Ladhakh, where the predominant deity is Hatak, Hatkesh or Hatkeshwar. According to the Skandapurana, the land of Hatkeshwar was a gift from Lord Shiva for the Nagars to colonize.

Another version of the legend claims the King of Anarta rebuilt an abandoned city, Chamatkarpur, and consecrated a temple to Hatkeshwar to show his gratitude to the Brahmins. Through the years, and many name changes, the town is currently known as Vadnagar. The inhabitants of the city were known as Nagars.

As time passed, the city of Vadnagar was invaded on more than one occasion. Nagars sought refuge in the nearby areas of Saurashtra and Rajasthan. During this time, they did their best to observe and preserve the code in order to guard their identity. After King Vishaldev conquered Gujarat (around A.C.E. 1040), the King of Ajmer established the cities of Vishnagar (formerly Vishalnagar), Chitrod (or Chitakutpati), Prashnipur, Krashnor, and Sathod (or Shatpad). He offered these cities to the Brahmins who were descendants or an offshoot of the Nagars from Vadnagar.

Typical Nagar last names:

Major Nagar groups (Naati) also derived in such way like Vadnagara from Vadnagar, Visnagara from Visnagar, Sathodra from Sathod and Chitroda from Chitod.

Derived from Geographical (Village or City) Names:

Anjaria Avasia Chhaya Dhebar Ghoda Hathi Joshipura Kharod Kukasia Mahudhia Mankad or Mankar Mankodi Pattani Rana Unakar Vasavada Veravala Vaishnav

Derived from Family Ancestry:

Antani Anantani Bavani Bhayani Kikani Maknani Premapuri Rindani Savani Vachhchharajani Vaishnav

Derived from Titles Awarded by Rajput and Muslim Rulers:

These rulers ruled Gujarat for about eight centuries. Nagars were on prominent positions and were awarded many titles. These twenty surnames include names such as:

Baxi Bhagat Desai Divan Durkal Hazrat Janita Jathhal Jha Kazi Majmudar Mazumdar Medh Munshi Parghi Pota Saiyad Swadia.

Derived from Professional Titles:

Most of Nagars are professionals. Many surnames were derived from the profession they were engaged in. These names include: Acharya Buch Druv Jikar Mehta Nanavati Pandit Purohit Vaidya

Other Names:

There are several surnames used in various regions in Gujarat. From Kachchh, these are, Kachchhi Maru Oza Jhala

From Kathiawad:

Dholakia Pancholi Jha

Other Nagar last names in Gujarat:

Bhatt Dave Divetia Dwivedi Dixit Joshi Maharaja Pathakji Raval Shukla Tripathi Trivedi Vora Vyas Yagnik

Another view asserts Nagars to be of Greek origin. When Alexander invaded India, he had came with his army through Kashmir. While returning, many Greek soldiers settled in Kashmir. They came into close contact of Pundit community of Kashmir and the progeny that resulted was known as Nagars. Afterwards, Nagars migrated to other parts of the country. Nagars and Greeks are considered similar even today so far as their intelligence and physique are concerned.

Instantly I could see the DNA link with

Ancient Greece, Alexander the Great, my past lives and Sundip!

Source:https://www.ravenecho.com/articles/27/305/

1 Comment (+add yours?)

  1. મૌલિક રામી "વિચાર"
    Feb 12, 2016 @ 17:36:05

    Wow..very nice and informative..its vichar nagar (region)….👌

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